Can Dart Frogs be kept in a Greenhouse ?

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Postby Mantella Guy » Sat Apr 09, 2005 6:03 pm

You could build a concrete wall about 2-3 feet high and I don't think they will get out. Since this is so big, where can I get enough dart frogs for (30-40) at a good price?
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Postby DartFrog » Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:02 pm

I think they could climb over the wall if they wanted to. I think you could design something that they couldnt climb over. Sounds like you need to start a breeding program to stock that thing.
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Postby waretrop » Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:48 pm

I am starting my collection of frogs now and they live in a terrarium in my greenhouse.After thinking about this for a while I still can't see where it's logical to allow them to run free but I will think of a way to do it if I ever start to breed them.You would have to protect them from the fans,watering systems,and,furnace.You would have to be careful where you set a plant or dug into a pot.You couldn't use poisons for bugs and that is difficult if you were to keep many plants.Origionally I was going to be the one to not use bug sprays.That only lasted one season for my plants were stripped.Not only is a greenhouse condition great for plants but for their bugs also.Good luckon your greenhouse an please keep us posted.You will enjoy it.I'll bet I spend 5 hours each day out there in mine.I love it there.Barb
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Postby Mantella Guy » Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:57 pm

All of the things you said I though about, I will make a case for the furnace so they can't get in it. As for the bugs, well I would take the frogs out and spray it wait a while and put the back in. And when you dig a hole you just have to look out. Does any body else have any suggestions? Thanks for all the help.
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Postby geckguy » Sat May 14, 2005 11:38 pm

Setting frogs up in a greenhouse takes alot of planning, and in your climate it will cost a small fortune to keep the temperature within acceptable ranges. I am currently designing a few greenhouses for hard to breed egg feeders, but I am in Florida and will not need heating or cooling. Dart frogs can climb over concrete, after all they can climb glass, even large tincs. I suggest doing alot more research before even attempting to build a greenhouse for frogs. As for a door, you will need double doors. You go through one door, shut it behind you, then open a second door to enter the greenhouse this prevents frogs from jumping out when you open the door. If you removed the frogs to spray for bugs, the residue will still be on the plants and will kill your frogs.
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Postby DartFrog » Sun May 15, 2005 10:06 am

Geckguy,

Do you have any pics of your greenhouse? I was wondering how well darts are at crawling over acrylic with a 90 degree piece on the top, something like an inverted L . When I get the time I plan on experimenting with different types of barriers.

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Postby littlefrog » Mon May 16, 2005 10:33 am

DartFrog wrote:Yea I think you could make it work but it will need some planning. I would like to find a way to keep the frogs in a certain area of the greenhouse. I dont know how to do that with out a cage.


Interesting thread... I don't know that I would ever try darts in my greenhouse. It is just too big, and while I don't like to spray insecticides, in a plant collection as big as mine sometimes I just have to. And I fertilize constantly. That has to be bad for dart frogs...

However, there are frogs that are resistant... I've heard that coqui frogs are impossible to get rid of, and are actually a nuisance in tropical areas. I'm confident they wouldn't survive a winter (or a spring) up here, though. Is it possible to buy coqui frogs? If I did, could I still send plants to tropical climates (do they lay eggs in plants)? Is it stupid to even think about these frogs when there might be better options?

I'm still confused about greenhouse frogs... Looking for good options. Whites Tree frog was suggested in another thread. Anybody have any other good ideas? Mantellas, maybe?
Why yes, I do have orchids you could grow in a vivarium... *grin*

http://littlefrogfarm.com (orchids!)
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Postby geckguy » Mon May 16, 2005 7:54 pm

My greenhouses are basically screened in boxes. They are made for dart frogs, and they have full run of them so no wall is needed to keep them in a certain spot.

There is a reason they try to get rid of coqui frogs, they have a very loud call, around 80 decibels. I am sure your neighbors wouldn't appreciate a group of them calling through the night. If you spray you greenhouse with fertilizer or pesticides DONT add frogs. There is no reason to have frogs in your greenhouse, I made special greenhouses which will house hard to breed eggfeeders that need lots of space.
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Postby DartFrog » Mon May 16, 2005 8:14 pm

What do you mean screened boxes? Do you have more then one in your green house? Do you have any pics?

Thanks

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Postby geckguy » Sat May 21, 2005 10:52 pm

I made a frame using 4" x 4"s, and screened it in with heavy duty shade cloth. It is basically a larger version of a reptarium. They are not finished yet, they still need plants, leaf litter, and doors. They are built under a large oak tree for extra shade to keep the temp down in our hot summers.
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Re: Frogs in greenhouse?

Postby Philsuma » Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:23 pm

Darts in a greenhouse, in the south eastern states or some parts of Cali could def work. I'd love to do some in Florida,but a fan and cooling system would also need to be had.
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Re: Frogs in greenhouse?

Postby D3monic » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:13 am

A big dream of mine is winning the lottery and building a large greenhouse addition onto the house. You would enter into a decon room where there would be just a wood bench for sitting or what ever, tile floor with drain and thats it. Then the door leading into the greenhouse. The green house would be similar to a small indoor rainforest with a large water fall that spilled down to a pond area and forming a shallow maybe 2' creek that would wrap around the expanse of the greenhouse. There would be a paverbrick walking path ( I thought about other options but short of a sidewalk this would be the best route to avoid stepping on critters) several benches strategically placed along the path for viewing areas. Micro habitats set up for different species of frogs, maybe even a few humming bird species ( not a fan of bird poop) Even simulated thunderstorms. Lots of epiphytes like large broms and orchids, small tree species and god knows what else. Basically a VERY large mixed tank >.< (ohh noes he said mixed tank!)
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