Heating the Viv - Good Dart Frog Temps ?

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Postby RichFrye » Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:39 pm

Barb,
Why are you concerned? Got a question?

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Darts with parasites are analogous to mixed tanks, there are no known benefits to the frogs with either.


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Postby RichFrye » Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:46 pm

One thing I have not been taking into account ; if there is not much water, and no running feature, then a heater may not have a very big effect , and at a low setting would be a heater back-up.

If there is a running feature with decent amounts of water, the heater could effect the temps more. I am not saying a heater is a bad idea. I do not use them. I just think it should be on a setting as low as possible for emergencies.

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Darts with parasites are analogous to mixed tanks, there are no known benefits to the frogs with either.


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Postby waretrop » Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:47 pm

For the record the heater I would put in, would be for if my furnace failed. It would be set at the lowest setting, 64 degrees. That is, if the temp goes below 64 it would heat to maybe 66 and shut off. This is only a back up heater. Sometimes a greenhouse heater can fail for various reasons.

I have african violets and have lost hundreds of them for just that reason. 60 degrees gets dangerous for them. I now have a mini furnace just set up for the violets area.

Again I also have a sensor that notifies me of a power failure or if the greenhouse goes below or about a specific temp.

Also the hubby says the little terrarium has only got as high as maybe 80 degrees in the summer. That is very "cool". :lol: Barbl

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Postby RichFrye » Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:15 pm

I will have a greenhouse with Darts at sometime in my life.
I say again, Barb, I am very jealous of your greenhouse.

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Darts with parasites are analogous to mixed tanks, there are no known benefits to the frogs with either.


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Postby waretrop » Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:16 pm

Rich, And you would have to seal it very well. And never take a plant out in the summer. And watch where you walk. LOL

I would love to have them run around free. I have often thought of getting a large shipment of dumpies and red eyes.

And then, Rich, you have to think about the very food that you are feeding the frogs and how you are going to feed them. Will these bugs propagate in the greenhouse and attack the plants you are trying to grow.

I had anoles trained to come to a 10 gallon tank to eat the crickets. I put a twig down in it so they could crawl out. I found one outside last winter frozen just below my furnace direct vent. Barb :wink:

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Postby Avarax » Fri Mar 18, 2005 2:55 am

Hi Barb I saw some pics of your setup and its very nice indeed. I was wondering what kind of pump you use in your gravel layer? do you use a special filter? I as because I have heard that soil particles can destroy water pumps. Any advice?

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Postby waretrop » Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:45 am

There is about 5 inches of larger gravel and I have made a square pit in the gravel with a little screen box,including the little flip lid, set in it with quilt batting (layered floss)around the screen. The pump sets in the box then, one whole piece of screen tops the whole surface and then a layer of floss again. My water and gravel stay fresh and clean through the whole bottom and the pump can be removed if it ever needed cleaning or repair. The pump is a powerhead for a undergravel filter for an auarium.

I have a computer fan at one end of the roof gable blowing in, in turn, out the other end.Both has screen, siliconed right in place. And in fact the whole thing is siliconed together, even the roof is attached.I worried about tiny little things leaving through cracks. I would have loved to just placed the peeked roof on, but I chose not to.I have cut two spots in the rood about 8 inches wide for me to do maintence through. They are of course not siliconed.

The reason I have gone to such extreme is that the greenhouse, where the little terrarium sits, might get too cold if I had a water reserve sitting below.I like these things to be as self supporting and all "within itself" as possible.

I easily could have used my greenhouse sprinkler system to do this same thing but that would have been much too cold.Barb

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Re: Heating the Viv - Discussion

Postby Philsuma » Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:33 pm

Good thread. Made it a sticky - mainly as a starting place to point new hobbyists when they say they live in a log cabin and need to have a dart frog viv next to the coal stove....

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Re: Heating the Viv - Discussion

Postby Philsuma » Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:23 pm

Hearing a lot of talk about heat mats and heating the glass viv directly. I'm always wary of heaters, glass fishtank heaters and mats ect.

Anyone have any good luck with localized heating devices or elements that they care to share ?

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Re: Heating the Viv - Discussion

Postby Judy S » Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:18 pm

Philsuma wrote:Good thread. Made it a sticky - mainly as a starting place to point new hobbyists when they say they live in a log cabin and need to have a dart frog viv next to the coal stove....

gees...sounds like you've been to my house...it IS an old log house--and very, very cold...so this thread is interesting to me as I look toward the winter. I read posts about undertank heaters...weren't they a "bad" think because it could cause the tank to crack?? I know there is a gap between the bottom glass and the table surface on the Exos...so now is this a recommended way to help heat the tanks for the winter??? And I know some herp people have the heat mats "glued" onto the vertical surface...but of course the glass surfaces inside couldn't have GS or stuff like that...or could it??

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Re: Heating the Viv - Good Dart Frog Temps ?

Postby dynekevin » Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:13 pm

I use a "dimmer" heat bulb for my vivariums.

I dont have the option to heat the frog area during the day and without a heat source my tanks do not get above the mid 60s.

I adjust the dimmer so the tanks with reach a high of 75 during the day. Which puts me at about 68 at night.
Be careful of humidity though, this can impact the humidity.

Here is a picture of what i do.

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