HUGE amounts of Great Stuff needed - Uber viv

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Postby PGB » Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:58 pm

Even better cheers me old china ! :wink:

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Postby RichFrye » Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:15 pm

Sorry Paul, no shots yet. But I just found #12.

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Postby PGB » Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:17 pm

woooooohooooo thats ok Rich I guess a trip to MI is on the cards :wink:

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Postby RichFrye » Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:31 pm

OK...13 is a biggie. I think I "flushed" him out catching 12. This guy has been hoppin around the viv for at least a few weeks.
Paul???


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Darts with parasites are analogous to mixed tanks, there are no known benefits to the frogs with either.


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Postby PGB » Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:35 pm

LOL whats the initials for Michigan? Heck I'll be back in the states soon (shooting u a pm soon)


Gonna be building a large viv soon hehe need ideas hints tips Heck i just wanna hang out and shoot sh*t for a bit

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Postby RichFrye » Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:39 pm

MI, bring it.
Darts with parasites are analogous to mixed tanks, there are no known benefits to the frogs with either.


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Postby PGB » Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:40 pm

its gonna be brought lol

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Postby RichFrye » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:04 pm

It's interesting . I just checked the same brom the last two came out of and the momma was tromping around checking out the situation.
Darts with parasites are analogous to mixed tanks, there are no known benefits to the frogs with either.


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Postby Dane » Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:37 pm

That's incredible. Looks like their future in this country is pretty well assured.

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Postby RichFrye » Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:42 pm

Thanks Dane,
No need to be sycophantastic (JK) yet though, assured is a very strong word.
I am happy.

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Postby RichFrye » Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:39 pm

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Darts with parasites are analogous to mixed tanks, there are no known benefits to the frogs with either.


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Postby PGB » Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:06 pm

Pics rich pics !!!!! :wink: swett not bad for what 7 months??

Do you think the space is a main factor?

or would you say the amount of micro fuana in there is more of a factor?

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Postby pastorjosh » Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:52 pm

Rich will answer your question, but I think the main factor is the space because of what the space leads to including:

-more microfauna
-better temp/humidity gradient
-more security
-cleaner (more space for poo, so less concentration as opposed to a 10 gallon)
-etc.

I really think that larger tanks should be the direction our hobby should head. Maybe the 5 gallon per frog rule should be modified.

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Postby RichFrye » Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:13 pm

Nice Josh,
Well summed up, but this is the best;

"Maybe the 5 gallon per frog rule should be modified."

I would like to do another spinnoff....and elaborate on the 6000+ viewed topic of Uber.

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Darts with parasites are analogous to mixed tanks, there are no known benefits to the frogs with either.


If tone is more important to you than content, you are at the wrong place.

My new email address is rich.frye@icloud.com and new phone number is 773 577 3476

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Postby pastorjosh » Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:56 pm

I few more advantages I thought of tonight to fit in my previous post:

-more broms means more choices (didn't someone do a study on pumilio brom selection)
-excercise due to larger area and less condensation of food.

Rich, please do the spinoff. I would love to talk about this issue.

I get asked how all the time how many frogs people should put together in a terrarium. I always say 1 frog per 5 gallons is the minimum they should work from. I know bigger is better, but how do we decide the minimum?

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Postby RichFrye » Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:09 am

'how do we decide the minimum?'

SQ Ft per living space ......or like I said study on UBER!
Not one of these frogs were collected within any space now being used to move forward as CBs....my guess.
Darts with parasites are analogous to mixed tanks, there are no known benefits to the frogs with either.


If tone is more important to you than content, you are at the wrong place.

My new email address is rich.frye@icloud.com and new phone number is 773 577 3476

Rad3Dad

Postby Rad3Dad » Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:12 am

Hey Rich,

I think you need to change the name of this thread to "HUGE amounts of Darklands!"

Awesome job on this "enclosure", by the way! And congratulations on all the froglets. :wink:

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Postby PGB » Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:20 am

Good answers Josh and Rich.

I had figured it was the size but had to ask....

Rich have you ever taken a leaf litter sample and seen what kind of Micro fauna is crawling around? it would be really interesting to find out?

When I get back to the states and settled I plan on making a few large viv's maybe a block of 4ft cubes? not as big as the Uber but still a heck of alot larger than a 10 nor even 15 high tank.

I agree with the micro climate differances being important have you ever check temprature humidity levels of differant areas of the Uber?


Sorry for all the Q's but this really intrests me.

Dane

Postby Dane » Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:34 pm

I saw in some of the pics of the Uberviv that it looked like you used duct tape to seal some of the seams. Have you had any problems with leaks?

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Postby RichFrye » Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:09 pm

Hey Dane,
No leaks. I sealed the duct tape with both GS and silicone to make sure of it. It is in a "mud room" so I was not too concerned if there was a tiny bit of moister. But so far, so good.

Josh and Paul.
I will start a separate topic on going big when I get a bit of time. Trying to catch up on actual frog work for a few days. There are tons of things to discuss on huge set ups.


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Darts with parasites are analogous to mixed tanks, there are no known benefits to the frogs with either.


If tone is more important to you than content, you are at the wrong place.

My new email address is rich.frye@icloud.com and new phone number is 773 577 3476


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