Ha I get both of you here,re the dog
Guys the words that mean the most here were uttered by Phil I think,just read the whole thread off the bat. Some frogs will get on just like people,some will never get on,just like us,for me this is the truism!! It equate too a new guy needing to look hard and watch his/sorry ladies her new stock. It matters not that frogs behave nowt like us or dogs, what matters is the opening of the mind of the newer guy. F0or me whom massively still considers my self learning ( a complete novice ),this phrase paints the most accurate picture to a new guy. I don't think we should blinker them with rules,I think we should open eyes to what could be. Within that is the constant need to watch the animals she
wanted to buy and care for.
I'd also say this Phil,all the caviats in the world wont help a new guy that has his eyes closed to his frogs. The new guy that we really don't need to help,but give to regardless,has his eyes open bloody wide to what his frogs are doing,he wanted them,he read up,he asked the questions, he already has learnt what could potentially happen,but more than all this he watches.
Best kept in pairs, becomes something different to that guy,as he'll learn I can do this with these individuals and def can't with another group of individuals. For me the need to watch is the biggest asset,all the rules and info in the world didn't stop me putting 6 pums together,all the rules in the world didn't change the fact that at one stage I had 4 males all living in peace together plus successful breeding going on. But the reading and the help given meant I knew before hand of consequences and by god I was looking for something to go wrong. Not only was I looking and expecting something to go wrong,but also I was prepared. New homes were there in place set up ready for it all went tits up,it just never happened !!
So it matters not what or which analogy we use to get a point over,be it people dogs religion or hell knows what else,what matters is a given new guy has help and how that guy evaluates that help and applies this to da froggies. Rules to be broken? Well it is human nature, we are all going there. Ahh but the need to look hard...watch like a hawk,instill that in the next guy,show him what can happen and empower him with this, I'll betcha you'll get another dart addict,if he cares.
There is a philosophy behind this mad man's ravings,encouragement,not bashing,education,not vilification and above all else look hard look hard and anything is possible . Why because the frogs are our teacher,there isn't anyone/thing better ,all us folks do is pass on what we see, our little experiences. Lets face it they are little experiences,don't matter how big the collection,we each have experience of a few individuals of a species(or morph, what ever, unimportant). Pass forward all frogs are individual this might happen that might happen I have seen this or that, this is possible with this morph,this might work with that frog,but by god watch the buggers!! And maybe, just maybe, this empowerment might make this new keeper into the guy we all covet so much.
That guy is a long term dart keeper
That guy is what my hobby,your hobby Phil,your hobby Glenn desparately needs,now possibly more than ever !!!
belucky both of ya,sorry to derail
bloody brits huh