Philsuma wrote:Fantastic Stu!! Those are stunning Red-Heads. You are , by now, very knowledgeable in the care of that species. Could write a really good care sheet, I'd warrant.
Hey bro ,how ya doing?
Phil sorry slow can't keep up way to much work and being physical in nature,the old bones leave me little at the end of the day. That said I've pondered your post a while and yup I suppose I could,no time to but yeah maybe.
The thing is though Phil I don't really do anything special with the RH than with my other frogs. Essentailly i've follow that same base game plan,try and find out all I can about where they live try and build a viv that echos that and also encouages fitness ha the the jungle gym . From there it's that ethos of try to be the best as keepers we can be so everything from UVB to carotenoids is pondered and implemented. Phil we graft,sure i'm a joker and lark around,but there is some disciplin going on behind the scenes two folks remember not just me,I ain't the sharpest tool in the box mate ,but much is to me made of that work ethos when applied to success.
Then really we get into parameters that i'd like to give these frogs in particular,that I feel are important they are widely known,but not always is it clear why,folks always say give 'em a big viv for example. Why would one want say a bigger viv for large oophaga than say maybe some auratus,essentially both will benefit all thangs being equal. It's the inviv rearing that I now feel is my primary reason for advocating the largest viv possible. I've already outlined the back story on these frogs pictured,they are without doubt the best we have reared,tis marginal mate to see puzzle bromleaf and the utterly hand reared female the occupants of viv 2 there aint much in it. But doing gives a handle into these tiny differences. Looking back i'm astounded how good a frog that wasn't reared by it's mum can be but no doubt in viv is best to rear these I've pretty much covered all bases now mate for rearing ,so from experience if you got some tomorrow that's my recomendation. The reason for the big viv now utterly comes into play. We are looking at a potential ( extremely fortuitous it has to be said) of a pair producing maybe 10 kids in 3 months,so the big viv gives those kids the best chance and has that potential for a higher microfauna,which acts to provide the constant food the tiniest ones need. the senario illustrated is extreme bro but still applies in two close clutches,the fight is to give the tiny ones the best. Back to disciplin keeper needs to be on those springtails like a rash !!!!
I have just illustrated a senario that points to large oophaga being productive this is NOT the big picture,this is a fraction of a year at peak breeding time,the next fundamental is stopping them and giving massive breaks. There is no place for pound or dollar signs here mate,DO NOT PUSH that breeding female,cherish her !!! When she is feeding kids maybe heaven forbid five she is laying huge quantities of eggs even a more usual 3 or one is still a big ask of her reserves. Stop her by any means ,fundamentally dry season,but if needed pull all potential depo sites. She is key to the kids being strongest possible she has to be in prime condition and that means lots of down time. Red head breeding season is short in the wild , nature holds all the keys think always long term never short . Get (make the most of) the astounding joy that she has given you in those kids and don't ask for too much,constant striving for best here and her needs not ours is paramount.
Hold on to your kids don't sell them until you have proved out at least a second female,again FORGET money,don't let the high value of these frogs ever enter your head see them as amazing see them as joy cherish how damn special they are but get one's head away from any thoughts of money that could contaminate best practice . I'm labouring this Phil. Not trying to to preach at all,there is a simple child like purity I hold dear with animals I see my leucs as much of a joy as my redheads, I honestly think this mindset is why I am here writing this about a dream that should not be real, pictured above. It maybe should not be part of a care sheet but if I did have enough experience to write one the ethos that allows me so sit on frogs and wait while we went through some or are going through some real hard times is important. If what Shaz and I have achieved with our first large oophaga can be deemed as success,it's not yet for me,but if that is so,then my outlook, mental approach, is paramount.
Going back to holding kids,with a rare scarce frog something bad can always happen cover your back don't rely on anyone else.
Next is really what I have already said to jim try and get you first kids you let go into very close friends hands make the backstops happen when one finally gets that far.
Oh one little thought I hold to a point of view that frogs are individuals we can make all the calls in the world about are these are social these are best in pairs but watch one's frogs like a hawk learn who each really is. My male "drake" we thought was agressive it turns out he is cool even in an overcrowded viv but shows the kids he is boss and then doesn't dwell. One might over react to an observation I did for ages before this lot and pulled all kids as we caught him standing on a little one very early on and my observation meant I felt he might kill them. It took a long time for me to pluck up courage to rear in viv ,because of one incident,where I didn't evaluate a behaviour properly,my first large oophaga kid Phil. Another red head male might be so different. Relating to behaviour and males,while rearing kids be aware that as sexual maturity is reached a group of kids can go from being at utter peace with each other to complete mayhem in days resulting in absolute need to move individuals. So many times I say watch like a hawk one needs to especially at this particular stage.
To sum up keeper on top of his game,consumate disciplin,the utter best that one considers in vit regime water food viv space and set up. We use repashy Ca plus as base dust vit A no more than 2x per month superpig in fly media and at 5% in bugburger put in viv(different avenues of caroteniods into the frogs). Rainwater as our water source,any wild grub I can get into them at any available chance,primarily the summer months in temperate blighty.
There ya go mate not a care sheet but some musings as to how we are here and what I feel might be of help to another as I say really it's what I do with all our froggies
Sorry again for being slow Phil time is so short it's never me ignoing there is always the reality of my life and fitting things in