Philsuma wrote: ...
Do not CHASE rare frogs. If you do, and are not in the 'in crowd', there is a 90% you will get burned in some fashion - money taken, sexed frogs wrong, sick animals ect ect.
I have no idea who or what the "in crowd" is. I know I am "in" (very) with some, 'out' (very) with others. It's the way I want it. And I also know there are U.S. froggers who I'd not accept frogs from , if they were free (I have a recent email to back this up, BTW).
I've been what I'd call burned exactly twice when trusting two guys to come through and be men of their word.
For some reason Sidney Ferrell and Paul Bachelor think I'll somehow forget all about them. Not going to happen.
But, it had less to do with "chasing rare frogs" and more to do with habitual liars caught too late in the game and their lack of a moral compass. Had nothing to do with the fact the frogs were "rare". I don't chase frogs (rare or other-wise) , I plan and have projects.
I see cheap frogs and hybrids
offered all the time. And those are the ones those new to the hobby really need to worry about.
Some of those importers of cheap easy to find frogs can be the biggest detriment to the hobby, and the biggest cause of large die-offs.
I'd venture to say the "money taken, sexed wrong, and sick animal" ploys are used on newbs at a much higher rate than 'rare frog scams'. So, buyer beware. And remember, impulse buys , be they cheap frogs or rare, be you newb or dusty old timer, rarely work out for you or the frog.
I know you were asking about these in the future tense, but this bears stating for all the other people reading this thread
Byron, just for your info, has been working with darts before you or I have. To try to keep things in perspective. OP mentioned below.
This, and many other rare species are....'if you have to ask about them......you're not ready"....
I think asking about the breeding being done here is fine. As long all things are kept in perspective. I doubt "itskris" was looking to find a pair/group for himself, rather just curious. Which I am also.
Asking who to purchase from and how to get them now
and how much they will cost would be a big red flag though. I didn't read that in this thread.