morten müller wrote:Hello again
Thanks for reply
I would like to emphasize that all material presented in my terrariums from the nature such as oak root, oak chips, and tropical leaf, are cleaned or heat-treated before use, it is same with the film container, but I can not determiner that pollution could have been my problem ?
I'm not sure what the factor was causing misshapen froglets, but clean film cans were not the cause. I have found that they very few times I have had SLS in a few froglets it was prompted by stress. Once the frogs settled in, no more SLS.
morten müller wrote:
I personally violated that bromeliads have several advantages over film containers, First of all. My frogs use these plater for many things besides feet up tadpoles, they are used to sleep in, shit in, breed in.
I don't think "violated' is the word you are looking for , . And, your "Chinese English" is much, much better than my Chinese Danish.
My frogs sleep, shit and breed in cans too, just as with broms.
morten müller wrote:
Another great benefit is that these plants contain large amounts of microclima in their dried leaves, when my young is gone ashore they stay in the bromeliad to eat the first few weeks before going to the bottom of the terrarium, another advantage is that they are closer to the top of the terrarium and in this way can receive UVB light from the first day of their lives, I think it is a matter of taste whether you use Bromelias or film containers. there are a lot of difference ways to keep these species, and I'm sure there are more advantage with film containers as I do not know about, but I breed fine without
I use the term "microclimates to describe area to settle into that are warmer or cooler, drier or wetter, more or less sunny etc.
Leaf litter carries just as much micro-fauna as dying or living broms, and infact when I do have one of the few broms I use die it falls into leaf litter on the substrate.
We are talking about grannies specifically here and I know they like less light than many other obligate species.
And, after reading the effects of UVB on one froggers collection of vivs and all the destruction it caused , I am keeping my frogs on a low radiation diet. It's not a contest to see who breeds more...but you've not owned grannies either .
morten müller wrote:I do not think the size of the tank is so important for the well being and breeding of the obligates species, as long as they frogs fit together, I only keep my oophagas in pairs, In the same context I very much agree that it is very important to have a good microclima to keep oophaga species the best way, but a good microclima can also consist all over the terrarium and not only in the ground cover, that's why I user xaxim/bromeliads, ant I do not cover my terrarium pages wiht with xaxim so the frogs feel more comfortable, I use xaxim for a better microclima, another advantage is that xaxim maintain a good humidity and provides the good environment for the frogs also, therefore I can easily breed the small oophage species in small terrariums, but agin only in pairs. To the larger species of oophagas I use a setup which is about 32 gallons
Again I must express my doubts about the Granulifera, since I never had the opportunity to work with this species
I totally agree that there are many different ways to successfully breed grannies.
But bigger is always better, all things equal.
I've always been open about my tips and pics and such with my frogs , especially my grannies which hold a place dear to me, so if there are any other questions, as opposed to what others are doing differently I'm open to discussion. I'm open to debate also, but I think we have both made our points.
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