Oophaga pumilio "cristobal" calling question

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Oophaga pumilio "cristobal" calling question

Postby TonyI25 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:16 pm

I have a male calling with two others in the viv. The other two aren't calling. How would I tell if the calling is territorial or courting?

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Re: Oophaga pumilio "cristobal" calling question

Postby Philsuma » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:12 pm

Very hard to tell, sometimes, even with 2.

I would seperate down to 1.0.1 and recheck from there. Observe and decide if you want to do the same with the other 0.0.1

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Re: Oophaga pumilio "cristobal" calling question

Postby TonyI25 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:19 pm

So moving to different set ups wont stress them out? What are the ways to sex pumilios?

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Re: Oophaga pumilio "cristobal" calling question

Postby Philsuma » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:26 pm

No extra stress, no - as long as your temp tank is adequate.If you have a second male and it's submissive right now, then you have more stress occurring right now, than if you separate.

adult, sexually mature males can have a dark spot under chin/throat area and stretch marks, but that's only if they are older and have been calling a lot to produce the 'stretch' ect. CB and smaller pums are, of course, harder to tell.

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Re: Oophaga pumilio "cristobal" calling question

Postby TonyI25 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:30 pm

Is the only way to tell if its a female if its laying eggs?

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Re: Oophaga pumilio "cristobal" calling question

Postby Philsuma » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:40 pm

correct.otherwise it may just be a submissive male that never calls.

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Re: Oophaga pumilio "cristobal" calling question

Postby TonyI25 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:48 pm

Ok looks like I'll have to separate them then.I hope they are females that haven't laid eggs yet.

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Re: Oophaga pumilio "cristobal" calling question

Postby Philsuma » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:51 pm

with 2 animals, you should see more 'genuine' / sexual interaction. The 'third wheel' sometimes throws everything off.

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Re: Oophaga pumilio "cristobal" calling question

Postby RichFrye » Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:41 pm

Where the frogs sold as sexed? Or just adults?
These your first frogs?
Darts with parasites are analogous to mixed tanks, there are no known benefits to the frogs with either.


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Re: Oophaga pumilio "cristobal" calling question

Postby TonyI25 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:39 pm

Was sold as a calling male and the other 2 were unknown. They are my first pumilios.


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