Re: Poll- "Frog Pedigree". How important to you ?
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:58 am
K, your english is much better than some Americans!!
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Vinnner wrote:One of the main points of contention with supporters of "site specific only" frogs is to prevent creation of hybrids in the hobby. The gray area comes in what is considered a hybrid, more on that later. I keep frogs for my enjoyment and they nor their offspring will ever be introduced back into the wild. That being said,I do not support creating "designer" frogs by crossing two clearly different morphs or species of dart frog. I don't think that claiming "site specific" frogs are more valuable does anything to help this cause. All it does is attempt to devalue frogs that come in without any site data. Not knowing the exact GPS coordinate of your animals does not mean that your frogs are crap and that breeding them to anything else without site data will create a hybrid.
Vinnner wrote: Prior to 2004 or somewhere close to that timeframe, the hobby existed for the most part without any animals that had site data.
Vinnner wrote: Recently (circa 2008) Understory Enterprises has begun exporting animals from Peru and these imports arecoming in with exact site data codes. Don't get me wrong, this is not a bad thing, but Imitators that have been in the hobby since the early 90s should not be deemed any less valuable than a recent "site specific" imitator.
Vinnner wrote:Use common sense and don't mix frogs that are clearly different morphs. If you are unsure, ask a veteran hobbyist, don't just post something on a forum. Know the experience of the person from whom your information comes. There is nothing wrong with wanting to know as much as you can about the animals you keep, but when you devalue other animals in promotion of your own opinion, it isn't good for the hobby. Animals with site data are no more or less valuable than animals without.
Vinnner wrote:A big downside to site specific data is that once released, the smugglers know exactly where to go to get that frog. This is the reason that exporters use codes to designate site specific animals. There are hobbyists that don't agree with me on this subject and some of them I know and respect, so get their opinions and make your own choice. If you choose to keep only morhps that have site data just don't devalue and trash the frogs that don't.
Vinnner wrote:My mistake I completely forget to tag this. It was taken from:
Copyright 2011 Robb Melancon, website: http://www.robbster.com/
I appreciate you taking your time to post responses to different parts of the article Rich. I will read through them, and am sure I will pull some knowledge from this. Just want to make it clear that the excerpt was just one of a few sites where I have been reading off of lately. Now do I agree with everything there, no. But like I said Im hoping to gain some more knowledge!