Spotted a Mix (Vapor)

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Re: Spotted a Mix (Vapor)

Postby frogfreak » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:53 am

What about you, Beth? Are you going to give these a try? I may be in KS in October - November. Just a hop, ship and jump from there lol It depends on when we finish his equipment. :)
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Spotted a Mix (Vapor)

Postby BcsTx » Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:28 am

I am trying it and it has helped me cut down, I do not smoke in my house or car and even on a long road drive it works.

Great! October is just around the corner, maybe we can try to have our Frogtober Meet at the same time.
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Re: Spotted a Mix (Vapor)

Postby Philsuma » Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:06 am

How big is the vaping hobby now folks ? My sister wants to open a store here in Pennsyltucky.

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Re: Spotted a Mix (Vapor)

Postby Armson » Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:09 am

I would say this hobby is about to disappear with the upcoming legalization that is about to sweep through the states.

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Re: Spotted a Mix (Vapor)

Postby Chuck Lawson » Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:05 pm

Armson wrote:I would say this hobby is about to disappear with the upcoming legalization that is about to sweep through the states.


It's going to be interesting to watch, that's for certain. Big tobacco, the pharmaceutical companies and (particularly) state governments have a lot of revenue at stake (cigarettes, stop-smoking products and cigarette taxes, respectively), so there are a lot of efforts afoot to discredit, outlaw or regulate it.

On the other hand, so far they're having difficulty getting out in front of increasing public awareness of the substantial number of people who've successfully stopped smoking, the continual reports of health benefits, and the just general popularity of it in regions where it has caught on (for instance, it's massive here, yet is virtually non-existent in other parts of the country).

The smart bet is that the end game will probably be getting it regulated to the point where only big tobacco companies can afford to be in the business, but it hasn't happened yet, and the longer it takes, the more difficult that might become.

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Re: Spotted a Mix (Vapor)

Postby Chuck Lawson » Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:07 pm

Philsuma wrote:How big is the vaping hobby now folks ? My sister wants to open a store here in Pennsyltucky.


It's big in some areas, hasn't caught on much in others so far. There's decent money to be made in it, just suggest she doesn't want to get caught up in long term leases, etc. in case things go wrong. Short of overall regulations, more than a few vape shops get killed every month by being zoned out of existence in some municipalities.

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Re: Spotted a Mix (Vapor)

Postby Dendro_Dave » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:52 am

I was using the volcano E-cigs for awhile. I got them cuz they were cigarette sized, but I think the bit bigger ones give a better draw/more reliable "drag". It did help me cut down on real cigs drastically because it satisfies all the physical aspects of smoking.

What kinda killed it for me was that I read an article that said there might be a problem when it actually comes to getting much nicotine from them, and I did notice that I didn't seem to get that instant gratification or "feeling" from them like real cigs after a drag.

Apparently the smoke particles in a real cig that the nicotine is bonded to are much smaller and thought to be more easily absorbed then the nicotine bonded to the larger vapor molecules from the Propylene Glycol and/or Vegetable Glycerin used in e-cigs. I think at the very least if you are refilling your own, you're going to get the liquid on your fingers and/or a lips and absorb some nicotine that way. I don't know though how sound that science was, nor have I don'e much research lately, plus a lot of real research still needs to be done on the efficiency and safety of these.
Found this...
http://www.nursingtimes.net/nursing-pra ... 80.article

Anyways It seems like it is starting to be more popular here in Tulsa. A lot of people at Hard Rock casino where I work now are using them more it seems when I worked there a few years ago. I'll probably get back into them at some point, since many of the cigs I smoke at home are more due to boredom and the physical habit rather then actually feeling the need for nicotine. The little USB one that I had hooked to my PC was especially handy and helped me smoke less for awhile.

As a business, I'm not sure a standalone e-cig shop is going to be a good idea for much longer unless you have excellent location, customer service, really good at promoting yourself and building a following, or doing something to stand out from the crowd. I think as the "fad" becomes more mainstream most of these shops will fold and the head shops, convenience stores, new age stores, or other places who's business isn't solely reliant on e-cig sales will dominate most of the market. Then there is the massive online presence and popularity of online shopping to contend with if you're a brick and mortar store. If you have a store front and an online presence, probably have a better shot then just having a store.
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Re: Spotted a Mix (Vapor)

Postby IDPM » Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:38 pm

I started with 18mg juice. Closing in on a year with no cigs and currently on 4mg juice and plan to keep weaning. By far the easiest way I've ever tried to end the cigs.
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Re: Spotted a Mix (Vapor)

Postby Chuck Lawson » Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:50 pm

Dave, the "cig-alikes" still suck -- with current technology, you just can't get enough energy density in a battery in that form factor to operate an atomizer properly, plus most of them are aimed at using terrible proprietary eliquid mixes that aren't good anyway. If you get a chance, try going in a vape shop and have them suggest something for you to try in the store. I will guarantee that with a proper setup, it's very easy to get enough nic in the vape to kill the craving; in fact, if you're like most people, the level of nicotine you end up using will drop dramatically fast.

I smoked 2.5 packs a day for 40 years, and started vaping just to tide me over between going outside for a cigarette (new house, didn't want to smoke in it). I ended up quitting cigs 3 days later without ever having an intention to -- I felt so much worse (physically) every time I had a real cigarette I just said "screw it" :-)

Like Brad, I'm nearly a year clean now (it'll be a year May 18th). I started out with 36mg e-liquid and have been doing 6mg for about 8 months now; I could pretty easily drop lower at this point.


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